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Postby lucradia » Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:08 pm

I noticed pings have been too high in comparison to before with v15. Is there anything that I missed as to why this is happening? From my other post:

Yep, ping is the serious factor, and I'm getting unbelievably high pings across all servers in Madison, Wisconsin. SpeedTest is not an accurate way to measure pings to MMORPGs; you need to have the IP Address to the game server, which, if you have a firewall like COMODO, or a router, you can easily find out.
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Re: Pings are too high

Postby filiakun » Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:37 pm

It's like that for a lot of people, especially during exp events - that's when it turns just about the ugliest.

Tho, if you have issues with all servers in your region (and the rest of the world?), chances are you should be addressing that question to your ISP, instead.

lucradia wrote:SpeedTest is not an accurate way to measure pings to MMORPGs; you need to have the IP Address to the game server, which, if you have a firewall like COMODO, or a router, you can easily find out.

They don't respond to ping requests, to my knowledge, so I doubt knowing the login server's address helps.

That's why people usually recommend the second best option. If the rest of your connectivity is fine, then you can narrow down the issue to the network the game servers are on, i.e. Gala-Net's back yard.
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Re: Pings are too high

Postby lucradia » Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:35 pm

filiakun wrote:That's why people usually recommend the second best option. If the rest of your connectivity is fine, then you can narrow down the issue to the network the game servers are on, i.e. Gala-Net's back yard.


Sadly, it doesn't happen with most other MMORPGs. The only other one that has had this issue, is Forsaken World. If you want to know what MMORPGs I've played, see the list on my thread about the lagging typing; linked here:

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Re: Pings are too high

Postby filiakun » Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:07 am

FlyFF's known for its connectivity issues, so I wouldn't be surprised. (especially during an exp event) In most cases here, it's the server side that's the problem.

But if:
lucradia wrote:I'm getting unbelievably high pings across all servers in Madison, Wisconsin.

you should probably contact your ISP anyway, FlyFF or otherwise.
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Re: Pings are too high

Postby lucradia » Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:40 am

Well, I just was in Runes of magic, no lag at all thank heavens. I just needed to see if my password resets went through. But as for contacting my ISP, I'll go do that; but it may take a while for Charter Communications to respond. In the mean time, I'll re-install FlyFF (Since the patch server and downloader have no lag) and check my router for the game server's IP, see if I can't force a DNS Clear through it or something. Maybe it just needs a bit of eDraino.
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Re: Pings are too high

Postby ketto_shi » Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:43 am

As for now, most -if not all- experience lag in FlyFF now, again..
Most lagg on S1, and then less, but still noticable, on S2-S4
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Re: Pings are too high

Postby lucradia » Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:16 pm

cajt wrote:As for now, most -if not all- experience lag in FlyFF now, again..
Most lagg on S1, and then less, but still noticable, on S2-S4


I didn't have really any lag during v15 though; not even noticeable like it is now.

Edit: here are the statistics from the router:

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              LOCAL    NAT                INTERNET   PROT  STATE  DIR   TIME OUT

192.168.0.102:52717   52717   173.245.92.237:28000   TCP    EST   OUT   2399
192.168.0.102:52718   52718   173.245.92.237:15400   TCP    EST   OUT   2399


Here is a traceroute:

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Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

C:\Windows\system32>tracert 173.245.92.237

Tracing route to 173.245.92.237 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.0.1
  2     6 ms     5 ms     7 ms  10.135.96.1
  3     8 ms     7 ms     7 ms  dtr04ftbgwi-tge-0-6-0-2.ftbg.wi.charter.com [96.
34.20.64]
  4    18 ms    11 ms    10 ms  crr01ftbgwi-tge-0-3-0-10.ftbg.wi.charter.com [96
.34.18.108]
  5    17 ms    14 ms    15 ms  crr01euclwi-tge-0-2-0-0.eucl.wi.charter.com [96.
34.16.116]
  6    13 ms    15 ms    15 ms  bbr01euclwi-tge-0-3-0-6.eucl.wi.charter.com [96.
34.1.40]
  7    14 ms    14 ms    15 ms  bbr02euclwi-tge-0-0-0-2.eucl.wi.charter.com [96.
34.0.7]
  8    23 ms    23 ms    23 ms  bbr01chcgil-tge-0-0-0-3.chcg.il.charter.com [96.
34.0.9]
  9    21 ms    22 ms    20 ms  prr01chcgil-tge-1-3.chcg.il.charter.com [96.34.3
.57]
10    22 ms    23 ms    21 ms  96-34-152-54.static.unas.mo.charter.com [96.34.1
52.54]
11    21 ms    21 ms    21 ms  ae1-40g.cr2.ord1.us.nlayer.net [69.31.111.137]
12    69 ms    68 ms    70 ms  xe-4-0-0.cr1.sjc1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.142.7]
13    74 ms    70 ms    69 ms  ae1-40g.ar2.sjc1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.143.118]
14    70 ms    72 ms    75 ms  as18779.xe-4-0-4.ar2.sjc1.us.nlayer.net [69.22.1
53.94]
15    71 ms    70 ms    71 ms  te49.ve9.crs4.sjc3.egihosting.com [72.13.93.178]

16     *        *        *     Request timed out.
17     *        *        *     Request timed out.
18     *        *        *     Request timed out.
19     *        *        *     Request timed out.
20     *        *        *     Request timed out.
21     *        *        *     Request timed out.
22     *        *        *     Request timed out.
23     *        *        *     Request timed out.
24     *        *        *     Request timed out.
25     *        *        *     Request timed out.
26     *        *        *     Request timed out.
27     *        *        *     Request timed out.
28     *        *        *     Request timed out.
29     *        *        *     Request timed out.
30     *        *        *     Request timed out.

Trace complete.

C:\Windows\system32>


here's a normal ping:

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C:\Windows\system32>ping 173.245.92.237

Pinging 173.245.92.237 with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 173.245.92.237:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

C:\Windows\system32>


From the tracert, I can see that my ISP (Charter) is not to blame for the high pings / lag.
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Re: Pings are too high

Postby filiakun » Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:11 pm

Doesn't look like you're having problems in your back yard, so to speak. While I'm still unsure about what you meant regarding issues with "all servers in Madison, Wisconsin", you seem to be fine.
In a sense, it confirms a scenario witnessed by many; so, if it proves comforting, you're not alone.

lucradia wrote:here's a normal ping:

As I said, it's not uncommon for some services to ignore ICMP echo requests. Pinging those directly will always fail, even under the best conditions, because the target actively refuses to respond.
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Re: Pings are too high

Postby lucradia » Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:58 pm

Then I guess I'll have to deal with my first ever serious lag issues in an MMORPG :(
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Re: Pings are too high

Postby ketto_shi » Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:01 pm

What if you try speedtest? and connect to San Jose? To see what you get..
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Re: Pings are too high

Postby lucradia » Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:24 pm

cajt wrote:What if you try speedtest? and connect to San Jose? To see what you get..


I said before that speedtest is not an accurate measure of the speed to the game server; as speedtest hosts servers that try to be the lowest latency. But here it is anyway:

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here's one to a far away place:

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Here's one to Canada:

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here's one to Florida:

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Here's one to the UK:

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